How is one to know if one has had enough until one has had too much? Alyssa Isaacson snohomish, wa USA IP Address - ww-tn03.proxy.aol.com Sat Feb 21 23:11:50 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Women have so much power- yet do they even know? the strength of a battalion they possess when- in the cover of darkness they reach out to grab hold- of the heart the poor man held so dear- but willingly gave to these angels- his angel- she holds it in her hand and hesitates- but not knowing her own strength- she crushes it with but a mere gesture -so the man is relieved of his torture but never of his love......... Charles Smith Boston, MA USA IP Address - www.pharmsci.neu.edu Sat Feb 21 22:16:54 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Encagrova si ouesni enconosaragua, seui grau FRAQUNOI!! Matttie Cadaver, CANADA IP Address - pro1-156.barrie.connex.net Sat Feb 21 21:52:53 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm in a pondering-the-whys-and-wherefores-of-the-universe-and-mankind mood tonight, so I got out this book I had. "Famous Quotations", by John Bartlett. It had a LOT of cool quotes I'd like to share. Some of them are beuatiful, some offensive, some funny, some mind-blowing, some are poems, but all are a good deal of food for thought. Read and think. Hope is a waking dream. Aristotle What is a friend? A single soul dwelling in two bodies. Aristotle The actuality of thought is life. Aristotle I walk unseen On the dry smooth-shaven green, To behold the wandering moon, Riding near her highest noon, Like one that had been led astray Through the heav'ns wide pathless way, And oft, as if her head she bow'd, Stooping through a fleecy cloud. John Milton The poetry of earth is never dead. John Keats Life is but a day; A fragile dewdrop on its perilous way From a tree's summit. John Keats All that we see or seem is but a dream within a dream. Edgar Allen Poe Perverseness is one of the primitive impulses of the human heart. Edgar A. Poe The boundaries which divide Life from Death are at best shadowy and vague. Who shall say where the one ends, and the other begins? Edgar Allen Poe Nothing can be more beautiful than death. Walt Whitman A child said "What is grass?" fetching it to me with full hands. Walt Whitman Afoot and light-hearted I take to the open road, Healthy, free, the world before me, The long brown path before me, leading Wherever I choose. Walt Whitman Adam was but human-this explains it all. he did not want the apple for the apple's sake, he wanted it only because it was forbidden. Mark Twain Man is the only animal that blushes. Or needs to. Mark Twain Let us be thankful for the fools. But for them the rest of us could not suceed. Mark Twain We ought to learn from the one kine thing: ruminating. Friedrich Nietzsche Is not life a hundred times to short for us to bore ourselves? Friedrich Nietzsche Conscience is the internal perception of the rejection of a particular wish operating within us. Sigmund Freud It is through art, and art only, that we can realize our perfection; through art and art only that we can shield ourselves from the sordid perils of actual existence. Oscar Wilde All art is quite useless. Oscar Wilde Over the piano was printed a notice: Please do not shoot the pianist. He is doing his best. Oscar Wilde I can resist everything except temptation. Oscar Wilde We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars. Oscar Wilde Art is the most intense mode of individualism that the world has ever known. Oscar Wilde When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. Sir Arthur Conan Doyle Wine comes in at the mouth And love comes in at the eye; That's all we know for truth Before we grow old and die. William Yeats The cook was a good cook, as cooks go; and as cooks she went. Saki A little inaccuracy sometimes saves tons of explanation. Saki The meeting of two personalities is like the contact of two chemical substances: if there is any reaction, both are transformed. Carl Jung If there is anything that we wish to change in the child, we should first examine it and see whether it is not something that could be better changed in ourselves. Carl Jung The dream is the small hidden door in the deepest and most intimate sanctum of the soul, which opens into the primeval cosmic night that was soul long before there was a conscious ego and will be soul far beyond what a conscious ego could ever reach. Carl Jung Where love rules, there is no will to power; and where power predominates, there love is lacking. The one is the shadow of the other. Carl Jung The most beuatiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science. Albert Einstein A single death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic. Joseph Stalin You do not need to leave your room. Remain sitting at your table and listen. Do not even listen, simply wait. Do not even wait, be quite still and solitary. The world will freely offer itself to you to be unmasked, it has no choice, it will roll in ecstasy at your feet. Franz Kafka It is better to know some of the questions than all the answers. James Thurber I beleive that man will not merely endure: he will prevail. William Faulkner I know only that what is moral is what you feel good after and what is immoral is what you feel bad after. Ernest Hemmingway If we win here we will win everywhere. The world is a fine place and worth the fighting for and I hate very much to leave it. A man can be destroyed but not defeated. Ernest Hemmingway Sorry I took up so much space. Sometimes I just get this intellectual rush and I have to read stuff like this and share it. For me, Franz Kafka's quote hits closest to home. =) se ya tommorow! Teleute IP Address - dasc15-216.flash.net Sat Feb 21 20:15:05 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tom Cheer up... Dr. Seuss does Shakespeare I ask to be or not to be. That is the question I ask of me. This sullied life, it makes me shudder: My uncle's boffing dear sweet mother. Would I, could I take me life? Could I, should I end this strife? Should I jump out of a plane? Or throw myself before a train? Should I from a cliff just leap? Could I put myself to sleep? Shoot myself or take some poison? Maybe try self-immolation? To shudder off this mortal coil, I could stab myself with a fencing foil. Slash my wrists while in the bath? Would it end my angst and wrath? I sleep, to dream, now there's the rub I could drop a toaster in my tub. Would all be glad if I were dead? Could I perhaps kill them instead? This line of thought takes consideration-- For I'm the king of procrastination. Skippy Reboot USA IP Address - a091.m4048-2.etn.infinet.com Sat Feb 21 19:22:44 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is just what's goin through my head right now. No Face By The Suicide Machines I know, they know Don't drink, drive slow Insane, no brain Dress down, look plain Big FUN, no gun No girl, gotta run Flipside can't hide Can't think suicide Is there anybody out there? Does anybody know? Is there anybody out there? Does anybody know? Been there, No where done that get square I'm hip, no lip dig this, my tip Punk's dead, see red Life sucks, DEADHEAD No race, no face Still there, sane place Is there anybody out there? Does anybody know? Is there anybody out there? Does anybody know? I don't know where I went wrong And I don't know if I can Wait that long But everytime I hear that Another kid died Through a senseless act of violence It makes me wanna cry... Is there anybody out there? Does anybody know? Is there anybody out there? Does anybody know? Tom Holbrook, USA IP Address - ww-tc01.proxy.aol.com Sat Feb 21 18:39:58 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- DYSLEXICS UNTIE !!!!!!!! TJ aliso viejo, ca USA IP Address - mvo-ca1-18.ix.netcom.com Sat Feb 21 17:28:55 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- No Jesus Know Fear Know Jesus No Fear Corgan Long Island, NY USA IP Address - ww-tr01.proxy.aol.com Sat Feb 21 15:15:24 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- No Jesus Know Fear Know Jesus No Fear Corgan Long Island, NY USA IP Address - ww-tr01.proxy.aol.com Sat Feb 21 15:13:46 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ahhhhh.... the best thing about having a day of no work and all play, is being able to crack open a bottle of Moosehead and relax while catching the tail end of the Olympics.... or catching up on the latest postings on TBW!!! In my line of work, I see some of the most beautiful women on a daily basis... and they can be up to 100 - 200 pounds more than Psycho Chick (which I would like to add seems to have her $hit together even if other people have a problem with what she may or may not weigh -- $crew them, you go girl!) . These women are successful, happy, and have everything that they need and more. They are overweight, but they are sure of themselves and do not let people dictate who or what they should be. These are the women who everyone ( males and females) should look up to, because they are the ones who in the end will win the most. Moosehead Canada IP Address - dialin79.oanet.com Sat Feb 21 14:17:49 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies." Nietzsche Skippy Reboot USA IP Address - a110.m4048-2.etn.infinet.com Sat Feb 21 13:45:45 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- raven-->i jus got your email...i'll write u back in a little bit..my bro has ta talk ta his little whore pyscho chick--> whut up grrl....how r u doin?? all--->look at gecko an see whut happens if u piss me off Chica USA IP Address - ww-tq06.proxy.aol.com Sat Feb 21 13:33:39 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Whatever and ever amen Raven USA IP Address - hky-198.conninc.com Sat Feb 21 13:22:31 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Everyone has a photographic memory, it's just that some people don't have film. by the way, my butt itches Chris Barr Winston-Salem, nc USA IP Address - wsx-nc4-28.ix.netcom.com Sat Feb 21 12:47:54 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Later, skaters!!! @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Psycho Chick Canada IP Address - ts34l3.pathcom.com Sat Feb 21 12:43:39 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sorry if I sounded bitchy in that last post. It's that time again. Psycho Chick Canada IP Address - ts34l3.pathcom.com Sat Feb 21 12:42:09 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dammit, I always feel so good after kicking ass...heh heh...Guess who made someone cry yesterday??? Oh boy. I kicked ASS!!! I'm,like, on Cloud 194!!! Aaaaaaaaaaaa..... Raven Don't worry girl...there's still a lot of ass to kick in the world...you'll have your turn...solidarity!! *lol* Chica Hey girl!!! Wuz up??? Long time no see!!! (((HUGZ))) Hey you know what really pisses me off??? Everyone I meet goes "Oooo! You're so skinny!!! Are you,like, anorexic or something like that Chand??? Do you throw up your lunch every day??? God, that is so gross!!!" Dammit, can't a girl weigh 85 lbs and be happy about it and not get crap from everyone???? You iknow what REALLY pisses me off??? Half the people I know put "Eat something this summer,Chand" in my yearbook. Geez! These people are never gonna see me again and they tell me I shpuld be eating more??? Whatever happened to "Have a nice life" 9or "Enjoy your summer". But no. People always have to take something your proud of and make it seem bad. Damn, I take pride in not being overweight and being able to eat whatever I want and some loser has to ask if I'm anorexic. Just because I have a smaller stomach and get full quicker doesn't mean I'm harming my body!! Maybe Ihave a smaller stomach (which I do)!!! And when I have pizza or something some loser hasto stare at me and say "Wow!!! Are you,like, binging or something???" Yep,that's the way to enjoy a good meal. Talking about barfing always gives me an appetite. I feel much better now. Psycho Chick Canada IP Address - ts34l3.pathcom.com Sat Feb 21 12:41:12 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gecko--->listen up buddy! there is nothin wannabe or fake about fiona....she IS intelligent..more so than u'll evuh be...and she IS an artist...more so than some of these crappy WANNABE rockers or sell outs like llica which everyone loves cuz they all fuccing sound tha same...u can't fault her for being emotional and say she's weak because u are a man(most of the time equivalent ta @$$hole) and u don't know how to express your feelings or deal with them as she does. u can never be as articulate and talented and beautiful as fiona even if u tried for a thousand years so go off in your little world of sex, drugs, and rock and roll and stay there until u learn ta respect for strong women CAN I GET AN AMEN RAVEN Chica USA IP Address - ww-tr01.proxy.aol.com Sat Feb 21 12:00:30 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- whut up guyz?? i think i'll make myself a regular up in here. raven--> hey grrl....suprised ta see me?? well, i'm here an i got your back if u get inta an argument again(expecially if it's bout fiona) i just saw this really great daria...i'll tell u about it latuh. it really hit home grrl(expecially about whut u an adam were talkin bout)...an i'm like GO GRRLS!! i'll try ta tape it foe you. damnit! i forgot whut tha name of tha song is that miss sarah is makin a video for. dag...i'll see it again sometime. n e wayz, i'm gonna talk ta adam now...luv ya adam---> i respect your opinions but u should think twice before u say somethin like you did...fiona already feels bad enough about that video(if u read the rolling stone article on her a couple issues back u'd know) without hearin it from you. it certainly is not fiona's fault cuz this problem has been around for so damn long..so quit blamin an start tryin ta fix tha problem aiight cuz if u aren't part of the solution, u are part of the problem... no hard feelins though aiight..i've said my peace an i hope no one is pissed at me now....i'll see u guys latuh Chica USA IP Address - ww-tr01.proxy.aol.com Sat Feb 21 11:49:55 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fiona Apple is a strung out, psuedo-intellectual, anorexic, artist wannabe! What happened to the "Real" music such as Lynard Skynard, Pink Floyd, and GOOD 'OL Rock 'N Roll?!?! Gecko MI USA IP Address - 165.207.180.50 Sat Feb 21 11:45:16 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- bitz I had no idea you were so interested in my penis, or that its performance affects you so. As for which "step" you could take, I recommend the one off the top of a tall building. Regarding your "stinkin thinkin" (sic), medical science may be able to address your psychogenesis imperfecta. Otherwise, the "meeting" that would do you the most good would be the one between your karma and your dogma. Skippy Reboot USA IP Address - a110.m4048-2.etn.infinet.com Sat Feb 21 10:30:51 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tom: It's nice to know most of us could sort of help. I have a small suggestion. You usually quote depressing music. If that music makes you feel bad, why do you listen to it? I'm not telling you to go listen to Hanson and believe the world is all sunshine and roses all the time, but try not listening to depressing music and see if it makes a difference. bitz: Do we need you on TBW? Perhaps. You make some good points. I can't agree with what you say and how you say it, as you are almost always wrong, but you make us think what the world would be like if people that weren't wrong like you were around. I suppose, in your own way, you test our beliefs. You might be a neccasary evil. I don't know what everybody else thinks, and your posts are all garbage, but still. Teleute IP Address - dasc10-211.flash.net Sat Feb 21 10:09:40 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- janet- that was mean, rude and insensitive. telling everyone about my sexual akwardness. I'm never gonna share my personal experience with anyone ever again. you hurt me. I'm so ashamed. skippy help me deal with my "stinkin thinkin" what "step" must I take. "easy does it", "i'm ok today" ,I just need a meeting.......or better yet a drink bitz USA IP Address - senior-house.mit.edu Sat Feb 21 6:39:05 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- phanty- this whole "point" thing just aint funny no more. stop it. because rupert might want to "punch your lights out". he seems like a very unstable kinda guy. bitz USA IP Address - senior-house.mit.edu Sat Feb 21 6:32:12 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- tommy- I went back and read all your sad stories again. it's to bad you won't include me. I'm the only one that can really help. so, I'm going to give you what I get all the time. another chance............. tom, your unlovable. just incapable of loving someone. in time you will learn. you just need to get a little older. with age comes wisdom, self knowledge, and a stronger understanding of love. heartache is a wonderful teacher, it is your first step into a larger world. pain is what the unlovable experience, but it teaches a healthy, happy, poweful love. so grow up. love is a learned behavior. no one gets it right the first time, and if they say they do their lying................... bitz USA IP Address - senior-house.mit.edu Sat Feb 21 6:27:45 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- rupert- "you are your own worst enemy". that applies to everyone. violence is such a waste of time. even if you had the pleasure of "punching my lights out" it would not make you right. I don't "blast off at woman", I have all the respect in the world for woman. they make babies, well, some do. you see how dull things are when I'm gone. deep down, you want me on this wall, you need me on this. I'm entertainment, the jester. I'm off the wall. I'm in your face. an educated indiot am I. you'll never really know me, you can only try to piece me together. but there are just to many pieces missing. I'm full of myself and doubt my abilities. I constantly contradict myself. I never lie, except when I really, really have too. never let anyone know what your really thinking, it gives them the advantage. nobody here really exists. we are all just scribbles on a wall, all the silly l'il nicknames we have, it's smoke. we're all hiding like rabbits in a hole. those that show themselves get whacked as they so deserve. let face it buddy, there are some sick people that post here. lucky for you I'm not one of them. c'mon, be my make believe cyber bubby. unlike the rest, I make mistakes. I'm in love. I'm sexually inadaquate. and I can't spell. bitz USA IP Address - senior-house.mit.edu Sat Feb 21 5:54:14 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- teleute- pay no attention to skippy, he's just upset because his penis don't work............. bitz USA IP Address - senior-house.mit.edu Sat Feb 21 5:07:13 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- For general consumption: (heard this over the local FM) "How many surrealists does it take to change a lightbulb? Two-one to tether the rhinoceros, and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored machine tools." Necromancer USA IP Address - pm104.cp.duluth.mn.us Sat Feb 21 2:43:21 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sex is like snow... you never know how many inches you're going to get or how long it'll last. stace can IP Address - nwcsts05c15.nbnet.nb.ca Sat Feb 21 1:22:51 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Everyone here (except Bitz), Thanks for all the help. You guys sorta helped, in your own little ways, but I screwed up. I hung out with my friends and their girlfriends. This depressed me even more than I ususally am, because I see how happy they are, and wish I had that. I have to walk away when they start getting romantic. I guess all I really want is someone who loves me. I don't know why I can't find that. I rips me up inside to think about it. This is what I'm trying to say... "Everybody's having fun. Except me I'm the lonely one. I live in shame."--Ozzy Osbourne, Goodbye to Romance. Tom Holbrook, USA IP Address - ww-tc03.proxy.aol.com Sat Feb 21 0:53:51 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Testing. nitecruzr USA IP Address - xwww.bankamerica.com Fri Feb 20 20:30:01 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- PhantoM: *claps heartily* Thank you. Too often we all have valid points, but can't agree with someone else that has equally valid points. I wish the whole world could see that they are not completely right all the time. Sometimes it takes one with a different perspective to help us gain wisdom. IMHO, no human being can ever be totally correct in his/her opinions (waitaminnit...). But seriously, it takes a group of people with different opinions to know (or approach) the truth. Teleute IP Address - dasc28-150.flash.net Fri Feb 20 20:21:38 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ((Hugs)) for ya... I'm in the same boat. I'm losing weight for myself, although the side affects that come with it ain't bad! 32 lbs. down and counting. *big grin* Toodles! Amos USA IP Address - honors9.memphis.edu Fri Feb 20 19:41:12 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- I You Scott with all of my heart. Thank-you so much for all the joy you have brought into my heart. I will never find another man like you in all my life. You are perfect. Never change. Lina Towson, MD USA IP Address - 209.19.11.82 Fri Feb 20 18:26:06 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Raven: Marvelous. I must send you mail about it. Thanks ever so much. *kiss* IÕm off for the day, folks. TTTT PhantoM LA, CA USA IP Address - 1cust29.tnt15.lax3.da.uu.net Fri Feb 20 17:55:04 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Phanty Try your mail again. Raven USA IP Address - 207.87.193.237 Fri Feb 20 17:32:34 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- My advice to a younger classman: Always remember take your chances when you have 'em. Twat's twat and that's that. Dr. Strange Garnett, KS USA IP Address - port6.kanza.net Fri Feb 20 17:30:05 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Damn I feel better. It's wonderful what two asprin can do for you. Adam Now that I'm a bit more tame, I apologize. I was "PMSing" as my former lover would say, and Idid not mean to aim that you were not a decent man. Just please, someone, remind me when I've had a bad day, to take some asprin before I make a fool of myself. So in pentance I give to thee one wish of any your soul shall need, and it will be given to you. Sorry, again. Women have their days. *sigh* (hug) Phanty It amazes me how everytime there is agrument or conflict, the coments Phanty gives are always correct. Makes you wonder were such a spectre got such talent. ; ) Raven USA IP Address - 207.87.193.237 Fri Feb 20 17:17:35 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- *Picks up Adam's clothes* Oh, c'mon Adam! *peers in cave* Adam...? Toodles! Amos USA IP Address - honors9.memphis.edu Fri Feb 20 17:10:14 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- *removes clothes - puts on animal skins* If anybody needs me I'll be in my cave. Adam USA IP Address - 206.104.75.108 Fri Feb 20 16:52:51 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Okay, I really don't want anyone angry at me, but here is my opinion: Fiona Apple is not part of the so-called "heroin-chic" trend, as far as I can see. I don't believe she has made any attempt to represent a model for young females through the way she looks; instead, I think she does an excellent job of releasing her emotions in her music. If some believe this is her way of representing the female population, then let it be so. I'm sorry, Adam, but I can't agree with you here. Toodles, Amos USA IP Address - honors9.memphis.edu Fri Feb 20 16:49:49 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hey, if it'll end war, I'll agree to that. Though I hardly feel like a combatant, I love heated discussion. Politically Incorrect here I come..... *offers case of Dr. Pepper as a peace offering* Adam USA IP Address - 206.104.75.108 Fri Feb 20 16:45:34 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ŌTis a dangerous thing to step between combatants, for one will likely get pummeled by both sides, but here I go anyway. I appears to me as if both Raven and Adam disagree with the society pressures women with body form, sex, and subordinate expectations. However, while Adam perceives Fiona as part of the problem, Raven perceives Fiona as part of the solution. Where perceptions are in conflict, it is often best to agree to disagree. PhantoM LA, CA USA IP Address - 1cust49.tnt14.lax3.da.uu.net Fri Feb 20 16:38:03 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- So, because I defend women's rights to be without body conscience issues, I'm not a Decent man. That makes good sense. Adam USA IP Address - 206.104.75.108 Fri Feb 20 16:28:32 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Raven I'm not thin and I have long since decided that if people can't take me the way I am, then they're not worth knowing. I would love to be thinner and I have lost a fair amount of weight recently, but it is for the right reasons, for me, and not because society dictates that I should weigh X stone(s) Right, Thats it, I've said my piece, I'm definitley going now. See you all Sunday. Love to all. xx Julie MZ Crewe, England IP Address - 194.205.138.222 Fri Feb 20 16:21:51 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Phanty Thank you. Thank you very very much. I'm glad someone understands. There are SOME decent men in the world. Too bad one of them is all the way in LA... *sniff sniff* Its just been one of those days..... Raven USA IP Address - hky-185.conninc.com Fri Feb 20 16:19:45 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- PC That's it girl. Kick ass. It's National Piss Off Women Day, So take advantage and go show these asss what women are all about!!! - a VERY VERY VERY PISSED Raven. Raven USA IP Address - hky-185.conninc.com Fri Feb 20 16:14:47 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Adam You wanna know why girls think that? You wanna know why they are belimick, why they starve themselves??? Because society make them think that way. Society makes young girls, hell everyone, think that if you're not thin, you're a nobody. And that's society's fault. NOT Fiona's. So bite me. Raven USA IP Address - hky-185.conninc.com Fri Feb 20 16:12:07 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- I think I may avoid the start of whatever war is brewing. I won't be on until Sunday because I'm staying over in Shrewsbury tomorrow night for the purpose of getting roaring drunk, but hopefully not making a fool of myself. Our nights out are getting to be the stuff of legend on our company, with colleagues coming from Swansea, Birmingham, and Cardiff to join the fun! TTFN. Love to all. xx Julie MZ Shrewsbury for the weekend!, getting P!$$ed England IP Address - 194.205.138.222 Fri Feb 20 16:11:56 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Skippy: YouÕre close. Cognoscible, a. capable being known or perceived. Cognoscitive, a. having the power of knowing. PhantoM LA, CA USA IP Address - 1cust49.tnt14.lax3.da.uu.net Fri Feb 20 15:56:35 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- I WAS THE THIRD GUNMAN ON THE GRASS KNOLL YES , IT WAS ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!hAHAHAHAHAHHA SORRY,CAN'TTELL district of columbia, USA IP Address - frame63.suffolk.lib.ny.us Fri Feb 20 15:53:18 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Oh, and one more thing. Yada, Yada, Yada :> Peppermint Patty ?, Maine USA IP Address - rcd1.meaugusta.fsc.usda.gov Fri Feb 20 15:52:02 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Aha! "cognoscible" Skippy Reboot USA IP Address - a082.m4048-2.etn.infinet.com Fri Feb 20 15:48:47 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- hey Tom you know who i am but nobody else will so hi Plop i'm gonna take a big crap since i am on the bathroom page PPLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP!!!!! Phsyco person did you blow anything up this weekend you suc i hope YOU HAVE A REAL GOOD WEEK I'm sure you will hahahhahhhahhahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahaahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahhahaha wouldn't ya like to know hahahahhahhahahahah ronkonkama, NY USA IP Address - frame63.suffolk.lib.ny.us Fri Feb 20 15:46:55 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Looks somebody else's mom left'em on the Tilt-a-Whirl too long as a baby. Skippy Reboot USA IP Address - a082.m4048-2.etn.infinet.com Fri Feb 20 15:45:08 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Heee Heee. Haaa-haaa-haa. Oh, I love it. (Wipes her eyes and holds her aching sides). Hey guys, you made my day with those quotes. I shall now do my yoga to banish negative vibes. Ohhhhhhmmmm. Ohhhhhhhmmmm. Much better. Have a good weekend. Peppermint Patty ?, Maine USA IP Address - rcd1.meaugusta.fsc.usda.gov Fri Feb 20 15:42:28 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- @#$$%% you all this internet sux big hairy balls wouldn'tya like to know holtsville, ny USA IP Address - frame63.suffolk.lib.ny.us Fri Feb 20 15:39:16 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Have a good weekend...I know I will...heh heh ************************************** ************************************** ************************************** ************************************** ************************************** Psycho Chick Canada IP Address - ts22l16.pathcom.com Fri Feb 20 15:25:29 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Julie MZ: We are both unsure, but I would never argue with a native. Reminds me of my thoroughly American, high school Spanish teacher, who chose to argue with a foreign exchange student about the pronunciation of Castilian Spanish, which is the standard language of Spain. The student was born and reared in central Spain, where the dialect originated, and our teacher came across as much the fool for arguing with the student. IÕve never forgotten that lesson. Raven: Do check, please, as IÕd not be missing a gift from you. BTW, please allow for some male exceptions when grousing about women being unappreciated and exploited. Yes, the world may be man-driven, but there are some of us who can appreciate woman as more than a subordinate sex object. PhantoM LA, CA USA IP Address - 1cust94.tnt13.lax3.da.uu.net Fri Feb 20 15:23:08 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Oooo Oh, BTW, me and my friends made her cry too...revenge is sweet But I'm not done yet...I know who she likes. heh heh heh >: ( -Extremely Angry Psychotic Chick Psycho Chick Canada IP Address - ts22l16.pathcom.com Fri Feb 20 15:20:56 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- i'll be hiding back here for the weekend.... behind the toilet.... see yall monday..... janet USA IP Address - orion.ramapo.edu Fri Feb 20 15:20:35 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Raven: No harm no foul. You spoke too soon, though. I have listened to Tidal. I've watched the video for Criminal (or whatever the song is) I noticed her flaunting around in a nightie. I know 13 year girls who see that and feel bad because their body doesn't look like that. I've rubbed the back of a bulimic on the purge side of the meal, because she was made to feel "heavy" by videos like Fionas, or the Spice Girls. I'm glad you found solace in her music. She writes it for people like you. (That will come across worse than I intended) She performed "angel" and if you listen closely, you can hear Jimi spinning in his grave. I've read Maya Angelou, and Gloria Stienem, and Meridel LeSeur. The judgement I pass on Fiona is not without research. There are those who will lead women's music into the minds of unconscience America, like Indigo Girls, Joan Baez, Sarah McLaughlin (spelling) and there are those who will jump on the Bandwagon and ride it until they get caught. I have seen their leader and her name is Fiona. Adam USA IP Address - 206.104.75.108 Fri Feb 20 15:20:24 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Zup All? I know I'm behind and all but I just read Skippy's post on Jan. 22(I think). It was the one about sex laws. Anyhoo, I wish I would of known the Coeur d'Alene, Idaho Law about officers not being able to knock on your car Window without honking and waiting for 2 minutes. This would of made a difference of what I did every Friday Night with my GF.(When I was living in CDA) Oh well, Life goes on. Peace, Love, and People Who Ramble ON!!!(myself included) IK The Rock, USA IP Address - 170-24-162.ipt.aol.com Fri Feb 20 15:19:48 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- PhantoM Whoooaaa, Hoss. I'm runnin' for the Webster's...cogniscitive, cogniscitive...hmmm. Skippy Reboot USA IP Address - a082.m4048-2.etn.infinet.com Fri Feb 20 15:18:24 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- lc amy bandwith: mine's about three-eighths of an inch, gold and platinum. You're almost as glib as Adam. janet I think you're right. And it won't be pretty. Skippy Reboot Locopolis, Ratcheer USA IP Address - a082.m4048-2.etn.infinet.com Fri Feb 20 15:13:30 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- uh-o ..... i feel a war brewing...... everyone take cover...... janet USA IP Address - orion.ramapo.edu Fri Feb 20 15:01:31 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Phanty I thought I sent something for you awhile back...I'll have to check again. Raven USA IP Address - hky-136.conninc.com Fri Feb 20 15:01:00 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Adam I will say this as polite and nice as I can contain myself to, so bare with me. I hold my music sacred. Those who touch me with their words in song are important to me, so I stand by them and their words. I stand proudly by Fiona Apple. Yeah she's okay when she sings, but it isn't her voice, it is her words. Have you ever listened to a Fiona Apple song? It is overflowing with emotions and understand surpassing those of other women I have known. About love, responsiblity, caring, and above all, being a woman. And don't give me that crap about her putting the woman's movement back...people like the Spice Girls do this. They exploit themselves and their looks, giving the overall sterotype of women a bad name. We, women in whole, are not whores here to show off our bodies. And yet society suports people like the Spice Girls, knowing very well the damage it does to the appearance of being a woman...and who in societ does this you may ask? Men like you. People that don't open their minds. Miss Apple has done her best to make sure this misinterpretation of women is discarded. Who in their right mind would want a disrespectful, ill-dress, whore representing their sex? I find it unGodly. The only one's keeping the women's movement it's the Spice Girls, not Fiona. Through Fiona's music, we see how it is to be a woman, the emotions held in a woman's soul, and how to deal with those emotions. In fact Fiona's words have moved me to be better than what I was. To learn how to jump past my problems. To not give in, to my emotions, and to death. But no one listens to words of wisdom. Why? Men. Not all of them mind you, but most. This is a man-driven world honey, but we know that behind every man, good or bad, there is an amazing woman. But still we go on unnoticed and rejected...used because of our sex. Women need to be celebrated. Fiona does that. The Lilith Fair does that. Enya, Lorenna Mc Kennitt, Dr. Maya Angelo, and countless others do this, but we go on unappreciated. And as for Fiona's image, I don't aggree with it, but it isn't my place to judge her apperances. Look inside a woman's soul before you judge her. And as for talent. I think the truth is enough. I suggest you look into the women's movement, and see the truth. Cause you're not seeing the whole thing if you think Fiona isn't worth my time. Her words helped save my life. I think that's good enough. So go to the Disk Jockey, Media Play, or Tower Records and get Tidal, and listen to it. Then maybe I will condsider what you say, cause until you heard her words, you don't know $hit. I feel better now. Raven USA IP Address - hky-136.conninc.com Fri Feb 20 14:56:10 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Phantom I did say "I think". I'm not completely sure on this one myself. Stones or stone. To me it's the same either way. Julie MZ Crewe, England IP Address - 194.205.138.213 Fri Feb 20 14:45:49 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Skippy: You sound better, irrespective of how you feel. I believe the "stone" is a uniquely British unit of weight (not mass) which is used colloquially always in the singular, even though "stones" as the plural should be grammatically correct. But Julie says the opposite and sheÕs British, so believe her first. Rupert, do you have an opinion here? I was not familiar w/ the Bugs quote, but then a lot of adult humor is buried in toons, much of which goes unnoticed unless you are looking for it. I remember one Bugs/Daffy toon which I had watched many times as a kid. It wasnÕt until I saw it as an adult that I noticed Daffy standing in front of a refrigerator with a nameplate, which wasnÕt visible for long, that clearly said "Coldernell." The "one who shall remain nameless" rankles me not. It is comforting to be constantly reassured, with each of his posts, that there is someone on this mortal coil who is infinitely dumber than myself. It is impossible that any cognoscitive and rational actor would, after receiving naught but the applause of derision and dismissal, continue to return to the same stage for additional helpings of the same meal. His posts serve well to demonstrate personified ignorance and abject creative poverty, and so they should be a comparative comfort to all. Lc amy: "Bandwidth" is bytes/unit time which a computer transmits and receives. Teleute: As long as this is The Bathroom Wall there will be kiddies scribbling stuff on it that their mommies wonÕt let them say at home. YouÕd best learn to ignore it. Adam: I combine all three of your character types by use TBW to project a positive, falsified extension of myself. Endless possibilities there. ;-) PhantoM LA, CA USA IP Address - 1cust94.tnt13.lax3.da.uu.net Fri Feb 20 14:38:22 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Someone should tell Yahoo! about their listing for TBW; it says "almost anything goes". Uh-huh. Well not, IMHO, anonymous jerks who want call people names. Teleute IP Address - dasc26-28.flash.net Fri Feb 20 14:22:11 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jamie sucks and Genny is a ho Anyomonus USA IP Address - 192.198.24.208 Fri Feb 20 13:50:31 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Skippy Stones, I think. BTW, MZ is short for the rather difficult spelling of my surname. Adam I don't know what you see when you look at my postings, but I pretty much try to be myself. (at least I hope so!) Love to all. xx Julie MZ Crewe, England IP Address - 194.205.138.250 Fri Feb 20 13:30:17 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- What's a "bandwidth"? lc amy tx USA IP Address - minerva.acs.unt.edu Fri Feb 20 12:48:31 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Teleute: Don't waste your bandwidth flaming Bitz. He thinks it's funny. Take him with a grain of salt, a big grain. Some of present TBW with an extension of ourselves. Others, use TBW to try out a positive twist on who they already are, shy people are less shy, etc... Still others, sadly, use TBW to project a falsified image an alter-ego if you will, of who they don't have the courage to be in real life. At the other end of some of these connections lie scared gutless self haters. I think they're kinda funny because most of us can see right through them. To quote from the Simpsons when Bart got a pet elephant: Lisa: Why is Stampy butting his head against that other elephant? Zoo Keeper: Because Lisa, elephants, like people, are just sometimes jerks. knowwhatimean teleute? Adam USA IP Address - 206.104.75.108 Fri Feb 20 12:39:56 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- bitz: Sex, two people masturbating at the same time and place? hmm. Perhaps scientifically, but if the world was was purely scientific, I know I wouldn't want to live in it. Skippy Reboot: I don't know if we've been formally acquainted, but I do think I've seen your name on TBW. *shakes hands with him* I'm Teleute. (you already know that, but the human race does many things for the sake of formality.) Teleute IP Address - dasc18-139.flash.net Fri Feb 20 12:25:24 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bitz, what is it with you? You come in with some great openers, some really interesting things and a good deal of honesty, and then blow it with your completely unnecessary aggressiveness. And when you get a response, you go into attack-is-the-best-form-of-defence mode. You can dish it out, fine, but you can't take it without squirting out all this venom. You are your own worst enemy. I'd like to get to know you better, but you just keep on making me want to punch your lights out. And I find it particularly annoying when you blast off at the women round here with such a complete lack of common courtesy. And I don't give a s*h*i*t whether you think that's just old-fashioned English nonsense. By the way, have you noticed how, ever since Silence of the Lambs, perhaps long before, the real evil baddies in Hollywood films always have English accents? You should listen to mine. Whoa, scarey. Rupert IP Address - beeleyco.demon.co.uk Fri Feb 20 12:14:03 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fiona Apple is a talentless, pretentious, rip off artist. I have more talent in my nose than what's expressed by her musically. Her display of the Heroin Chic is sad and disgusting and sets a poor example to young anorexic or bulimic girls everywhere. Just when the womens movement takes a decent step forward, scamps like Fiona Apple come along and set things back half a decade or so. If females of America knew what was good for them, they'd boycott her into the great half price bin in the sky. Now I feel better. Adam USA IP Address - 206.104.75.108 Fri Feb 20 12:03:47 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- oh, and bitz... i'm not hungry for what you are serving.... janet USA IP Address - orion.ramapo.edu Fri Feb 20 11:18:20 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AAWWEEE... poor bitzer.... :( ...society has made him a bad lover... janet USA IP Address - orion.ramapo.edu Fri Feb 20 11:16:15 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- PhantoM "TTBOMK" To The Bottom Of My Kilt? Ach! Such a braggart! :-) Hoot, mon, an' thanks for tha' wee bit o' information. Hae ye o'late been to the inn for skittles and beer? Don't tell me you've never heard Bugs remark in aside, "What a maroon!" ...usually after sending Daffy or Elmer on a wild-goose chase or into peril. I know how to spell "moron"--it begins with "m." Perhaps it should be spelled "MMoron." Just between you and me and the garden gate-post, you sound a little rankled. And I'm wondering if my former long posts were as irritating as he-with-the-room-temperature-IQ. He's so dense, light bends around him; a prime candidate for natural deselection. If brains were taxed, he'd get a rebate. bitz Speak for yourself. Are you having those delusions of adequacy, again? Julie 13 26 So do I weigh twelve stone, or twelve stones? This is kind of exciting for me. As of St. Valentine's Day, I haven't been stoned in eight years. I'm all atwitter. Teleute I don't remember if we've met. (I've been delirious for 30 yrs., or so...) Hi. Yesterday you asked Julie MZ (I think that stands for MonteZumie) what "bitz" means. The answer is, not much. He thinks he's sharp, just because he has a pointed head. After all, how much credence and respect can you give to somebody who actually wants to become a (retch) lawyer? If the Massachusetts bar exam excludes literacy, he may well become one of the 1,000,000+ ambulance-chasers in the U.S. :-P Dan Peterson Have you met Mikaili Mailto? Peas in a pod... What's that, Ace? Did you almost find your penis? I was in your neighborhood on Wednesday. Cin'ti is still fugly. A belated Happy Birthday to you! La Femme Psychotique Get a grip, gullfran! Ebbody else: Let'em roll! Skippy Reboot Locopolis, USA IP Address - a082.m4048-2.etn.infinet.com Fri Feb 20 10:53:08 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chicago lost a great yesterday. Harry Carry was like the spirt of Chicago its self.Sometime Harsh and rough, but mostly warm and friendly. I was a White Sox fan as a kids, but even though the Cubs were bitter rivals, you had to love Harry. One guy sumed it up, "Harry was the kinda guy that you'd want to have a beer with." And I thnk if you saw him on the street and offer to buy him a beer, he'd accept. It wiil be a sad season in Wrigleyville this year. I think everyone that has a beer this weekend shoud deciate of to Harry's memory. Ace of Spades USA IP Address - guild.tch.uc.edu Fri Feb 20 10:46:39 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Show 'em you a tiger Show 'em what you can do The taste of Tony's frosted flakes Brings out the tiger in you And you!!! They're GRRRRRREAT!!! Ace of Spades USA IP Address - guild.tch.uc.edu Fri Feb 20 10:38:59 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sex is like team sports... Every member has to do their job for the team to be it's best. And if sex was like auto racing, I'd be a driver without a ride who was looking really hard for one... Of course, beds would go at 200 MPH if that was true :^) Ace of Spades USA IP Address - guild.tch.uc.edu Fri Feb 20 10:36:49 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- SO CLOSE!!!! SO CLOSE!!!!! Ace of Spades USA IP Address - guild.tch.uc.edu Fri Feb 20 10:20:00 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you can't keep it in your pants keep it in the family Dan Peterson Superior, WI USA IP Address - 205.213.108.42 Fri Feb 20 10:17:46 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nothing says loving like boning your COUSIN!!! Dan Peterson Superior, WI USA IP Address - 205.213.108.42 Fri Feb 20 10:16:20 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- You should never fart in church because you will be sitting in your own pew. Dan Peterson Superior, WI USA IP Address - 205.213.108.42 Fri Feb 20 10:13:25 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- YO!!! You, yeh you! Wazzup wit you? Doin alright here. Check up on you guys (and gals) later. Peace, Love, and Nagano!!!(Bless Me) P.S. Up to Jan 17th now. IK The Rock, USA IP Address - 201-251-169.ipt.aol.com Fri Feb 20 8:39:39 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bitz: I know youÕre not a lawyer yet. I think you missed the point again. Raven: I checked my mail - nothing there. *sob* PhantoM LA, CA USA IP Address - 1cust251.tnt13.lax3.da.uu.net Fri Feb 20 6:54:22 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ginia- I get bored reading the same drabble that gets flushed all to often so I just tune out for a few days. patty- "abusive" "narcissistic" ......."shut up". I see your incapable of processing the truth. you should pray for a quick death, because life is just too hard for people like you. olivia- I'm not telling. but keep me posted on the nights you stop for pops. phantom- I have a long way to go before I can call myself a lawyer. and now for you, Janet- "what does that say about men" most men are very akward creatures sexually. they are pre-occupied with the pressure society has put on preformance, stamina, and foreplay. these elements crush the male ego, destroy any self image they may have, frustrate men to no end, and at the bottom of the page are the sad statistics of violence against woman and rape (I'll expand on this later if you like). are men supposed to "curl" for you? is that what you mean? maybe woman should "curl" themselves. if a woman's toes fail to curl during sex, it's her own fault. men don't need that trip. sex can be a wonderful experience, but it takes an active contribution from both sides. so ladies, feel free to just jump on top and go get what you want. I'll promise you two things #1 you will never go hungry again, and again, and again. #2 your husband, boyfriend, partner, brother, father, president, or priest will not mind one bit. believe me, men are stupid, simple creatures. sex is nothing more than two people masturbating at the same time in the same place. bitz USA IP Address - senior-house.mit.edu Fri Feb 20 6:33:05 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Skippy: TTBOMK, a stone is 14 pounds avoirdupois. I see TBW now has its own pet Xerox machine, which supplies us with the text of articles which are easily available on the net, given only the URL and a precis of the subject matter. Quite a mental leap, from brainless homophobic vindictive to brainless repetition of news, as if we are all incapable of watching and listening and reading all the news sources ourselves. Fascinating, how social misfits and fools flagrantly flaunt their failings, and press on in the vacant belief that all others must be similarly afflicted. What a lesson he continues to give us in the flailings of those who are misguided and mentally deficient. PhantoM LA, CA USA IP Address - 1cust251.tnt13.lax3.da.uu.net Fri Feb 20 6:32:20 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- *comes in huming "Pale September"...AGAIN. But find no one here. She writes on the mirror with dark red lipstick and grabs herself a Dr. Pepper before she heads for the door.* Everyone have a great day. (((HUGZ))) Phanty Check your mail my dear. Love those who have no love, and learn love in return. Raven USA IP Address - 207.87.193.236 Fri Feb 20 5:42:36 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- What thrills me? One look at the mirror... Narcissus Split, Croatia IP Address - ac29-p15-zg.tel.hr Fri Feb 20 4:44:27 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Celibacy is not hereditary. Dirty Old Man Miami, FL USA IP Address - ppp-4.ts-1.mia.idt.net Thu Feb 19 23:41:17 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Peppermint Patty, Thanks for the defense, but I've been putting with (and I use the next term loosely) people like Bitz. I've been inside their souls, and do you know what I found? Nothing. Absolute devoidity (hey, it's my post, I'll make up whatever words I please) of substance or humanity. It makes me sad, in a way. He'll never experience true love, or the pleasure of just being alive (something I've realized I've been forgetting about lately). I forget who said something along the lines of "Pray for the souls of the corrupt more than those of the innocent; The innocent have enough going for them already (if anyone knows who said something like this, tell me). Bitz'll probably, in his limited wisdom, misinterpret this as some sign of weakness. In which case, I'll quote yet another scholar, my friend Rick. He was the one who said, "Some people are just @$$holes." I'll be around people. See yas later. Tom Holbrook, The seventh level of Hell IP Address - ww-tb05.proxy.aol.com Thu Feb 19 23:16:30 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Remember...never..drink..yellow..water! Psycho..Chick Canada IP Address - ts46l18.pathcom.com Thu Feb 19 21:14:47 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Walkin' on the Sun It ain't no joke, I'd like to but the world a toke And teach the world to sing in perfect harmony And teach the world to snuff the fires and the liars Hey I know it's just a song but it's spice for the recipe This is a love attack I know it went out but it's back It's just like any fad it retracts before impact And just like fashion it's a passion for the with it and hip If you got the goods they'll come and but it just to stay in the clique So don't delay act now supplies are running out Allow if you're still alive six to eight years to arrive And if you follow there may be a tommorow But if the offer's shun you might as well be walkin' on the sun Twenty-five years ago they spoke out and they broke out Of recession and oppression and together they toked And they folked out with guitars around a bonfire Just singin' and clappin' man what the hell happened Then some were spellbound some were hellbound Some they fell down and some got back up and Fought back 'gainst the meltdown And their kids were hippie chicks all hypocrites Because fashion is smashin' the true meaning of it So don't delay act now supplies are running out Allow if you're still alive six to eight years to arrive And follow there may be a tomorrow But if the offer's shun you might as well be walkin' on the sun It ain't no joke when a mama's handkercheif is soaked With her tears because her baby's life has been revoked The is broke up so choke up and focus on the close up Mr. Wizard can't perform no god-like hocus-pocus So don't sit back kick back and watch the world get bushwhacked News at 10:00 your neighborhood is under attack Put away the crack before the crack puts you away You need to be there when your baby's old enough to relate So don't delay act now supplies are running out Allow if you're still alive six to eight years to arrive And if you follow there may be a tomorrow But if the offer's shun you might as well be walkin' on the sun You might as well be walkin' on the sun You might as well be walkin' on the sun You might as well be walkin' on the sun. Smashmouth This song needs to be heard to be fully apreciated, but the lyrics are so good I decided to post them. Teleute IP Address - dasc38-117.flash.net Thu Feb 19 21:02:04 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- sorry..that..last..post..was..so..widthy!!! Psycho..Chick Canada IP Address - ts23l4.pathcom.com Thu Feb 19 18:47:57 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- OK..people..I..dropped..my..keyboard..and..now..the..spacebar..doesn't..work..so..till..I..take..it..to..the..repair..shop..i'll..have..to..type..like..this! ginia unfortunately..mac..keyboards..don't..have..alt..keys..they..have..option..keys..and..when..i..use..the..option..key..the..tbw..doesn't..accept..it..probably..cuz..it's..a..mac..and..not..windows..95! anywayz..later..skaters..luv..ya! psycho..chick Psycho..Chick Canada IP Address - ts23l4.pathcom.com Thu Feb 19 18:46:56 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX 14:02:00 PST THU FEB 19 1998 XXXXX MONICA LEWINSKY'S DAD SPEAKS TO BARBARA WALTERS; SAYS INVESTIGATION REMINISCENT OF HITLER ERA; FBI WARNED OF 20-YEAR JAIL SENTENCE **Internet Exclusive** For the first time since the allegations surrounding his daughter and President Clinton hit headlines, Dr. Bernard Lewinsky breaks his silence and speaks with Barbara Walters on ABC's 20/20 Friday. The DRUDGE REPORT has obtained transcripts of the interview that has Lewinsky's father telling Prosecutor Starr to "Lay off!" his daughter. He tells a stunned Walters: "I think he's totally out of control. My daughter has not done anything from the federal point of view. She's not a murderer. She's not a spy. There was an alleged involvement in a civil case. I don't understand what this is all about." Bernard Lewinsky also blasts Linda Tripp: "I don't know how she sleeps at night. I think that the expression, 'With friends like her, you don't need enemies' has a new meaning. She is a pathetic specimen of humanity." More Lewinsky: "I can't imagine that this incident is going to erode the confidence of the people of this country with the job that he is doing. And I think it would be a sad day if something like this were to bring down a Presidency." "I feel that my daughter is about to go to the grand jury, and it is time for me to speak up about the horrors that she has gone through and continues to go through. What is going on, and what Ken Starr has brought upon her, is unconscionable in my mind. To pit a mother against her daughter, to coerce her to talk-- To me, it's reminiscent of the McCarthy era, of the Inquisition, and even, you know you could stretch it and say the Hitler era. It's awful. I can't believe that this is happening." BW: "To your knowledge, does your daughter exaggerate?" LEWINSKY: "My daughter's a very excitable person. You know, if we wanted to decorate a party with balloons, she would buy fifty, when I had in mind five. That's the type of exaggeration but as far as in life, no." BW: "Do you think your daughter could have made up a whole relationship with the President that didn't exist?" LEWINSKY: "I can't imagine her making that up." Lewinsky tells Walters how he first learned of the Starr sting: "At approximately 3:00 on Friday, January the 16th, I got a phone call from her mother who was traveling from New York to Washington, D.C., where she informed me that Monica had been tricked into a hotel room at the Ritz in Pentagon City, and that she was being accused of some relationship, I did not know exactly what." BW: "And Monica herself at one point talked to you?" LEWINSKY: "She was in tears, she was frightened, she had been with approximately five FBI men and five prosecutors in a hotel room for about nine hours. And they were threatening her with a 20-year jail sentence. They were telling her that she had to cooperate or she would go to jail." FOOTNOTE: ABC research is projecting a 30+ share for the exclusive interview, a network source tells the DRUDGE REPORT. X X X X X Lewinsky's father's interview transcript 1, 1 1 IP Address - 164.106.249.239 Thu Feb 19 17:36:21 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Teleute. "Bitz :-)" was an attempt to convey a "smile" to Bitz. If you read what he posted earlier you'll know why. I am definately going to bed now! I am knackered Julie MZ Crewe, England IP Address - 194.205.138.208 Thu Feb 19 17:35:24 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ~~PC~~ ALT+168= Ą ALT+0167= ¤ ALT+0142= * ALT+0412= Ļ these are just a few.. just remember to hold down you ALT button while punching numbers... Ą \¤/ ~~TTFN~~ GINIA CO USA IP Address - adialup146.dnvr.uswest.net Thu Feb 19 17:25:12 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Julie MZ: "bitz"? what does that mean? Motaro3: I suppose we could just e-mail each other, but that would destroy the community effect here. Come back. You might like it. Ginia, I tried holding down my ALT key, but nothing happened! Maybe I got MY keyboard on Mars... The Chicken, after a long and illustrious career, crossed the road yesterday and was fatally squashed by a semi. Some said he had it coming to him after all these years, but he will be missed. In respect of him, there will be no more chicken jokes. Thank you very much. All reports that I was in control of the semi are false. My dog looks at the keyboard strangely sometimes. I wonder if she understands how it works. Excuse me while I go get a glass of water. arf arf woof bark yap yap bark bark bark woof woof bark woof yap woof Ah, nothing like a glass of water. Why is my dog looking guilty? Teleute IP Address - dasc21-33.flash.net Thu Feb 19 17:24:50 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Goodnight folks. Love to all. xx Julie MZ Crewe, England IP Address - 194.205.138.218 Thu Feb 19 17:17:08 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pale September Pale September, I wore the time like a dress that year Theautumn days swung soft around me, like cotton on my skin But as the embers of the summer lost their breath and disappeared My heart went cold and only hollow rythms resounded from within But then he rose, brilliant as the moon in full And sank in the burrows of my keep And all my armour falling down, in a pile at my feet And my winter gives way to warm, as I'm singing him to sleep He goes along just as a water lily Gentle on the surface of his thoughts his body floats unweighted down by passion or intensity Yet unaware of the depth upon which he coasts And he finds a home in me For what misfortune sows, he know my touch will reap And all my armour falling down, in a pile at my feet And my winter giving way to warm, as I'm singing him to sleep All my armour falling down, in a pile at my feet And my winter giving way to warm, as I'm singing him to sleep -Fiona Apple Raven USA IP Address - 207.87.193.202 Thu Feb 19 16:56:12 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bitz :-) Julie MZ Manchester to Cardiff, England IP Address - 194.205.138.218 Thu Feb 19 16:45:38 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ace It never rains, but it pours. Julie Em Zed Crewe, England IP Address - 194.205.138.218 Thu Feb 19 16:41:11 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Skippy Sorry - I don't have a clue. I have enough trouble coping with what I weigh in stones. (I'm sure it would sound even worse in pounds!) Olivia As long as we can have some Stella Artois, I don't mind! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I didn't have insomnia last night - but my cat Smudge woke me up at 8am. Love to all. xx Julie MZ Crewe, England IP Address - 194.205.138.218 Thu Feb 19 16:32:34 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ginia: Sorr bout that...when your using a Mac, you can never know what could happen next!!! I'll just stick to a plain old : ) Psycho Chick Canada IP Address - ts35l3.pathcom.com Thu Feb 19 15:40:19 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am in the business of pleasing others. *walks in with a huge case, and leaves it outside the stall* You'll find Skittles and Peanut Butter Cups in there! : P Enjoy!!! Ginia: Just for you... @Ė@ *Ė* --- ~~~ Psycho Chick Canada IP Address - ts35l3.pathcom.com Thu Feb 19 15:39:15 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ok, who wants to see my toes??? ooooO Ooooo Later, skaters! *********************************** *********************************** *********************************** *********************************** *********************************** PS: Psycho, for attempting to steal my nick, you can kiss my butt. (I) Go on, don't be shy. Kiss it dammit!!! *lol*lol*lol*lol*lol* Psycho Chick Canada IP Address - ts35l3.pathcom.com Thu Feb 19 15:34:18 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Why not just e-mail each other guys? Just wondering... irc.msn.com Bye =^) (If a bear farts in the woods, does it stink if no humans are there to enjoy the aroma?) Motaro3 Wichita, KS USA IP Address - 1cust83.max5.kansas-city.mo.ms.uu.net Thu Feb 19 15:28:10 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The challenge of green puppies is that they never give you a straight answer. Psycho USA IP Address - 208.133.54.8 Thu Feb 19 15:09:06 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Did the chicken cross the road, or did the road move under the chicken? It's all relative, you see... Psycho USA IP Address - 208.133.54.8 Thu Feb 19 15:08:23 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- JANE .. turnips... *blech*... however, after reading you little ditty, i feel sorry for the poor buggers and will attempt to hold my nose and taste them again for the 40th time next thanksgiving.... janet USA IP Address - orion.ramapo.edu Thu Feb 19 14:57:24 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Livvy I am aware of celebs fondness of the great and noble Poe. And I am also aware of the singer, Poe, and am quiet fond of her music. Although she only has one album out, "Hello", I adore her music and wish that she would do much much more. My favorite is "Angry Johnny", btw. You might wanna check it out Phanty. Teleute Yes the master poet, Edgar Allan Poe. Very much loved by Phanty and myself. I became so obsessed with Mr. Poe, my mother named me Raven after "The Raven" Raven USA IP Address - 207.87.193.221 Thu Feb 19 14:31:06 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- I saw a turnip yesterday, it had no friends with which to play, I felt for it, that lonely food, so I turned of my attitude, No judgement, the icky food, he said. Because of taste, we're nearly dead. Mothers think it's fun, he cried, to have kids hate turnips deep inside! We cant help it if we taste bad, us lonely turnips have been had. A cruel joke has been played against us, he said, oh because I'm not tasty, i wish i was dead! So I sat with him, talking about races. And how different things effect our tastes. Jane Doe Nowhe5re, MA USA IP Address - default42-116.winsor.edu Thu Feb 19 12:55:22 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ~~Teleute~~ Mars? why yes. yes I did!! lol no really just hold down your ALT button and punch in numbers.. you would be amazed.. *Ą* Ī ~~TTFN~~ GINIA dat's nacho cheese!!!!!!, CO USA IP Address - dialup134.dnvr.uswest.net Thu Feb 19 12:53:46 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Raven, I assume you mean Poe as in Edgar Allen. The Pit and the Pendulum is one of my all-time favorite short stories. PhantoM: I knew a kid who loved Skittles so much he had a cat named Skittles. I tought it was a nice name for a cat. Ginia, how do you make those things on the screen? Did you get your keyboard on Mars? If nobody was logged on to the internet, would it still exist? Teleute IP Address - dasc19-200.flash.net Thu Feb 19 11:18:55 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Janet: Red, deep red. Looked pretty cool too. Adam USA IP Address - 206.104.75.108 Thu Feb 19 11:15:54 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Careful with that word "fetish" By true definition, a fetishist can't enjoy and sometimes even perform sexually without the presence of or fullfillment of these certain "requirements". Adam USA IP Address - 206.104.75.108 Thu Feb 19 11:14:20 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- adam... what color? janet USA IP Address - orion.ramapo.edu Thu Feb 19 11:11:45 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Feet? FEET? Don't even mention feet... boss has a foot fetish... Toodles! Amos USA IP Address - byates.memphis.edu Thu Feb 19 11:01:41 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Janet, Phantom: I let a woman paint my toenails once, does that count? Oh..wait...(did I type that).....umm..nevermind. Skippy: Neil Young a whiner? Really, hmm I've never heard anybody say that before. Certainly a profound observation on your part. Hey, I heard Dylan went electric........ Adam USA IP Address - 206.104.75.108 Thu Feb 19 10:39:04 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Janet: If there are a lot of women who havenÕt had their toes curled by men, then it means that there are a lot of men who lack a foot fetish. PhantoM LA, CA USA IP Address - 1cust141.tnt1.lax3.da.uu.net Thu Feb 19 10:20:37 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- phanty... skittles are little fruity m&m type candy.. yummy..... i'm pretty partial to reeses pieces.... bitz... i find it hard to believe that there are women out there who haven't had their "toes curled"... if i'm wrong, then what does that say about men? janet USA IP Address - orion.ramapo.edu Thu Feb 19 10:03:25 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Skippy: Welcome back. It would appear that gallons of Jewish penicillin didnÕt work any better for you than it did for me. Made me feel a lot better, but didnÕt alter the course of the plague one whit. "What a maroon"? Is that a (sic)? Your right, though. DoesnÕt matter what the (to remain nameless) idiot posts, or from where, his rank stupidity will give him away every time. ItÕs OK, though, cos I just love to watch fools sport their talent. Livvy: I thought skittles was a game. ??? Why would you be looking for such in the vending machine? Or am I missing something? PhantoM LA, CA USA IP Address - 1cust141.tnt1.lax3.da.uu.net Thu Feb 19 9:45:11 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- some people like it up the ass do da do da i'll do it 2x as fast oh a do da day cheese USA IP Address - 206.140.82.31 Thu Feb 19 9:03:40 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- has anyone seen my shoe, i seem to have lost it during the last condom war. hey skippy is it over there by the blood. cheese USA IP Address - 206.140.82.31 Thu Feb 19 9:01:57 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- so long hary!! we'll miss you :( harry Carry died last night:( cheese USA IP Address - 206.140.82.31 Thu Feb 19 8:58:55 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bitz: Do I understand you correctly? You plan to learn what it feels like to be a lawyer by practicing on your unsuspecting fellow man without studying the subject first? Then again, why not? CouldnÕt do much worse than a lot of them who studied anyway. PhantoM LA, CA USA IP Address - 1cust161.tnt15.lax3.da.uu.net Thu Feb 19 8:50:20 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mornin' all !!!!! Raven and PhantoM, Have either of you heard the Poe CD? (diffrent recording stars read Poe.... iggy pop and maryanne faithful are two of 'em.... the only thing wrong with the cd is the Cask of Am. isn't on it.....) Bitz, hello!! We missed you terribly.... are you ever going to tell me who 'we' know? I had the oddest dream last night that i worked at Smithwicks..... (I think i'm going there tonight after rugby....my dearest *may* sing....[her old band is playing and the last time they played and we went she ended up doing a few tunes... wow she rocks] ) How about a hint.....? come on, be a sport..... Poor Ace.... did all end well...? *walks over to the vending machines.... what no skittles?!?! someones in trouble!* hey, we should have a tap in here... unlimited supply of guiness.... maybe a nice pale ale?... we'll have to have that in a 21+ stall...... Olivia MA, USA IP Address - p3.ts7.lowel.ma.tiac.com Thu Feb 19 8:44:43 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alright Binary Bitz; I'm not gonna say 'Shut Up' to you because this is a public forum. I am going to say to give Tom your straight dope and quit poopting on the rest of us who have something to say to him. I'm sick and tired of your abusive, narcissist posts which make out that you are the only one on the face of this earth. If I want to post something which involves an experience in my life, I don't want someone who hasn't been there to poop all over it. You wonder why people don't share more insightful, meaningful stuff on here. It's because people like you stifle that exchange. Peppermint Patty ?, Maine USA IP Address - rcd1.meaugusta.fsc.usda.gov Thu Feb 19 8:44:29 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ~~SKIPPY~~ You're alive!!!!!!! yes, I tryed to send you a V-day card, and a get well soon card but....my bad... I missed an ever important N ...... and i just figured that out in your first post.....I have it wrong in my Address book... but fear not.. I have made all the appropriate changes....How are you???? ¤Ą¤ \Õ/ ~~Bitz~~ you should not stay gone so long!!!!! have you been on another vacation?? you were missed too.... ¢Ą¢ s ~~Everybody else~~ I have left a huge plate of Italian Chocolate cake on the counter top, just go easy on it...you know how Homer Simpson looks after he eats too much of something he really enjoys??? it has the same effect.....but man is it good!!!!!! £Ą£ \0/ ~~TTFN~~ GINIA Strange days, indeed!!, CO USA IP Address - dialup98.dnvr.uswest.net Thu Feb 19 8:41:59 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wow!!! that was long Blitz: wassup!! bro!!! What are you doning up at this god awaful hour? Ace of Spades USA IP Address - beecher20.bch.uc.edu Thu Feb 19 6:05:10 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- So anyway, you might be woundering whgy I posting at such a late time (it's 6:45 am in Cincy). Well,it because I was writing this paper for class today. Sure, I did start the actual act of writing at mid-night (at a 24 hour computer lan on campus), but i can pump a 5 page paper out like no tommarrow. Around 3:00 am, I finish the last paragraph. The paper was six pages long (and good if i might add). I was running grammar check when I see this little black bomb on my screen (little bombs of Mac screens are never good). The computer's suufer some error it has to be rebooted all my work is gone. Of course, I hadn't save my work I would have, but i didn't have a disk (I was supposed to steal one from the lost and found). The Lab assistant comes over to my rebooted computer takes five second took look at my computer and declare my paper gone!!! Now, I'm not that easy to give up (anyway, who wants to write a six page paper over again!!!). The one thing that I've learn with computers is stubborness pays off. I start playing around with File Finder when, right when I'm about give up, I find my paper!!! Of course, its a rough copy of my paper. All of the editing that I had done was on top of my paper. It was a mess. I got A disk from the assitant and got to the hard work of fixing my paper. It took me three hours to finish at about 6:30am. At this point I realize that 1 1/2 hours sleep will do me no good so there's "NO SLEEP TO THE ACE!!!" Anyway, after the 30th hour being awake straight you get this really weird feeling of being in the twlight zone that's kinda cool.... P.S. When I trying to print, the printer went down, of course! Ace of Spades USA IP Address - beecher20.bch.uc.edu Thu Feb 19 6:01:37 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- what the hell is happening here at TBW..... nobody gives poor tom the "straight dope"....... you all carry on like Buscaglia after a fckng six-pack. "i'm with ya tom", "cheer up tom", "here is my sad story of lost love", "I feel your pain tom", "I'll pray for ya tom" I think I'm gonna puke! let me tell ya all a quick story. two 15 yr. old girls are talking about orgasm (you know what I'm sayin)....... they agree that they know nothing about orgasm and both set out to learn and understand orgasms. the first girl buys a book on orgasm, she attends lectures on orgasms, she goes to the finest orgasm college in the country, she writes a book on orgasm, she has a radio talk show, and every night she talks about orgasms. she becomes the leading authority on orgasm. the second girl wakes up the next day and has an orgasm. which girl knows more about orgasm? ask any woman; "have you ever had an orgasm?" if she is offended, or mad, or blushes.........or ect.ect.ect. the answer is no. if she starts to smile/giggle and says in a soft playful voice "what did you say" Oh ya! she's had one, and she heard what ya said. as a matter of fact, any woman who is reading this right now and has had her "toes curled" is smiling already. god I love woman! you know him, you want him, you cannot live without him.............bitz is back. bitz USA IP Address - senior-house.mit.edu Thu Feb 19 5:55:56 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Adam: My biggest fear with the whole WebTV thing is what if these huge media companies decide to play who can buy up the most web space. After, that they decide to play a fun little game called let see how we can control the masses... I mean whenever there a major movement by the in controll of everything to take the movement, corrupt the movement, and turn the movement to their advantage. Ace of Spades USA IP Address - beecher20.bch.uc.edu Thu Feb 19 5:37:23 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- *sigh* Why must I be cursed with such a huge schlong? WaffleKing USA IP Address - modem4.conpoint.com Wed Feb 18 23:01:56 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Adam Do you know what the important lesson was regarding Kent State? Don't bring rocks to a gunfight. BTW, Neil Young is a whiner. Julie MZ It's 03:40 GMT as I'm writing this, so when you arise, welcome. How does a "stone" compare to pounds avoirdupois? 1:9, or 1:11? I haven't been to your soggy boggy in 20 years, but I remember not being able to explain to a Scottish woolens vendor how much an American weighs. I said, "about 180 lbs.," and her eyes really lit up. (with £s for pupils) Tom Check out "Love Over Gold," Dire Straits, c.1983 or '84. GINIA Were you going to send me a Valentine? My e-mail handle begins with frankenstein, no vowels. You're so sweet... MM You can run, but you can't hide. "What a maroon!" Bugs Bunny Thermall Hi, y'all. (That rhymes...) Psycho Chick Is that a bloody plug in your hair? Ebbody else: Laissez les bon temps roulez !! Skippy Reboot Locopolis, USA IP Address - a011.m4048-1.etn.infinet.com Wed Feb 18 21:59:40 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MTV IS CORPORATE MIND CONTROL: TURN IT OFF AND LIVE! the gNAT USA IP Address - 144.13.217.131 Wed Feb 18 21:54:55 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Never lose your fear,but never let it overcome you. -Sorry, don't know who said it Thermall USA IP Address - ppp-208-15-96-132.ltrkar.swbell.net Wed Feb 18 21:38:28 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Teleute I live to drink Dr. Pepper... And to read Poe. ; ) Raven USA IP Address - 207.87.193.219 Wed Feb 18 20:50:16 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- No Hope = No Fear The_buff_one Detroit, MI USA IP Address - 207.91.254.215 Wed Feb 18 20:34:23 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dont Mistake Lack Of Talent For Genius The_buff_one Detroit, MI USA IP Address - 207.91.254.215 Wed Feb 18 20:33:34 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hello to all I'm late on tonight. It's 2am and I have only just arrived home - *5* hours late! Bloody, bloody trains! The train that I was working on - with my catering trolley - had a ruptured fuel tank. My supervisor had to drive out to Ludlow to pick me and my trolley up - or I would probably still be there! Then I had to wait an hour at Shrewsbury for a train home. Well - at least I shouldn't suffer from insomnia tonight! Love to all. xx Julie MZ Crewe, England IP Address - 194.205.138.248 Wed Feb 18 20:13:00 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Raven, Is it just me, or do you have a thing for Dr. Pepper? Teleute IP Address - dasc9-167.flash.net Wed Feb 18 20:09:35 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- *walks in from a LONG day of work and feast her eyes upon a dream among dreams...* DR. PEPPER!!!!!!!! *hugs PC, nearly squeezing her to death* thank you thank you thank you *opens a can an guzzles it down; grabs another and finishes it as quickly; then reaches for another...* ....*burp!* opps... sorry. ; ) Raven USA IP Address - 207.87.193.204 Wed Feb 18 17:01:37 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Raven *PC enters washroom with a huge box. She stops by Raven's corner, moves the forgotten lore, and proceeds to place 5 mega huge cases of Dr. Pepper on the floor for her beloved friend* Hope ya like it!!! (((HUGZ))) Janet *PC quickly buys a condom, fills it with water, and chucks it at Janet* Happy now?????? *lol* *quickly mops up spill as Janet fumes* HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!! Psycho Chick Canada IP Address - ts35l6.pathcom.com Wed Feb 18 15:14:42 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ho hum.... how come when i'm here there is no tampon fighting? janet USA IP Address - orion.ramapo.edu Wed Feb 18 14:24:45 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- i'm bored..... janet USA IP Address - orion.ramapo.edu Wed Feb 18 12:43:28 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tom: There is no cure for the human condition. I don't know if anything we can say will make you feel better. Julie MZ: I hate Imsomnia. I can never cure it. I HATE IT! Teleute IP Address - dasc27-104.flash.net Wed Feb 18 10:50:38 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ace: Interestingly enough, one of the bigger problems that I've forseen from WebTv seems to be being ignored. If the internet and broadcast television merge, the Internet will fall under FCC jurisdiction, and we can kiss "free speech online" goodbye. Guy, our gracious host does his own level of censorship, out of decency. Imagine if TBW were subject to "broadcast" regulation, that'd be the end to Condom and Tampon wars. Think about it. Adam USA IP Address - 206.104.75.108 Wed Feb 18 10:47:12 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ESSAY / By WILLIAM SAFIREFebruary 16, 1998 China's Spy Ring WASHINGTON -- On Sept. 13, 1995 -- a date that will live in Clinfamy -- a mid-level Commerce official with top-secret security clearance named John Huang entered the White House, listing as "visitee" Nancy Hernreich, the President's secretary. That subterfuge was to conceal his presence at a 5:15 meeting in the Oval Office with President Clinton and the Lippo Group's James Riady, the Indonesian banker and financial contributor who had placed his longtime employee, Huang, in position to see U.S. secrets. During his 18 months of reading secret cable traffic, Huang received 37 personal briefings from a too-trusting C.I.A. officer on the findings of U.S. agents in Asia, at which he could view some 500 pieces of raw intelligence that revealed sources and methods. In that span, Huang made 261 calls from his Commerce office to Lippo in Los Angeles and Indonesia, 21 calls to Mark Middleton, the Clinton aide who had gone through the revolving door to Lippo. He also made 10 calls and paid a visit to Webster Hubbell, who had been paid $100,000 by Riady as a favor to Clinton just before Hubbell's indictment. Unbeknownst to his Commerce colleagues, Huang entered the White House and E.O.B. 67 times. Surreptitiously, he regularly visited a "drop" across the street from Commerce maintained by Lippo ally Stephens Inc., where -- often just after C.I.A. briefings -- Huang sent and received faxes and packages and made calls he did not want to appear on Commerce records. At the Sept. 13 Oval Office meeting, Clinton -- desperate for TV money -- reassigned Huang to the D.N.C., where he could raise funds from those he had serviced. He was the only D.N.C. official ever to be able to keep his security clearance. These damning facts are from the final draft report of the Senate's Thompson committee. In rare agreement, the counterintelligence arm of the F.B.I. and counterspies in the C.I.A. approved this statement to be issued by the Senate next week: "There are indications that Chinese efforts in connection with the 1996 elections were undertaken or orchestrated, at least in part, by People's Republic of China intelligence agencies." That agonizingly worked-over judgment by America's intelligence establishment is a stunner. China's spy network succeeded in penetrating the Clinton White House. We are not dealing here merely with lobbying conducted covertly, unlawful though such secret activity is. As the language in the report the Senate worked out with the C.I.A., F.B.I. and N.S.A. makes clear: "the PRC engaged in much more than simply 'lobbying.'Ź" We are confronted by evidence of espionage. It was conducted by operatives assigned by Chinese intelligence to collect U.S. trade-policy and other official secrets, as well as by agents of influence directed by Beijing to buy changes in U.S. foreign policy. "A variety of PRC entities were acting to influence U.S. elections," the unclassified Senate report states. A top-secret appendix containing evidence to back up these conclusions is to be locked away in inaccessible archives for decades. Such graymail is unacceptable. More news about the spy ring must be forced out. Our first priority is to protect our elections from foreign meddling; Americans have a need to know more right now about what spies corrupted what U.S. politicians with Chinese Government money. That's why aggressive prosecution of the sexless scandal is needed. After 15 months of letting the trail go cold and agents flee, the Clinton Justice Department was recently impelled by the impending Senate report to hand up its only indictment in the case: Yah Lin (Charlie) Trie of Little Rock and Macao. What other suspected members of the Riady ring go unprosecuted by ditherers at Justice? Al Gore's Buddhist temple friend is one: "The Committee has learned that Maria Hsia has been an agent of the Chinese government .Ź.Ź. that Hsia has worked in direct support of a PRC diplomatic post in the U.S." The underestimated Thompson investigation should wake us up. The Burton Committee will carry it forward. The courts should give the new independent counsel in the Babbitt case the task of bringing all those in the campaign finance scandal to justice.ŹŹ Home | Sections | Contents | Search | Forums | Help Copyright 1998 The New York Times Company Copyright 1997 The New York Times Company ---------- All rights reserved as noted. Matt Drudge IP Address - 164.106.136.146 Wed Feb 18 10:45:04 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Skippy: "Blood In the Tile Grout" would make a great title for an Anti-TBW War Song. I can just picture Neil Young strumming it out "...four dead in the left stall, four dead in the left stall..." Adam USA IP Address - 206.104.75.108 Wed Feb 18 10:31:57 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Web Tv sucks... I was at a bar last night that had it (as well as $.25 drafts but that's a different story). You can't enter in the addresses of the pages you want. It can't do frame if its life depended on it. And, I'm not even going to talk about the issues that the the combining of cable TV and the web create. It seems the only the it would be good for is loading corporate advertising pages. Okay... I'm done! Ace of Spades IP Address - curbow.tch.uc.edu Wed Feb 18 10:30:39 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- *Peering out of the stall that I've been hiding in* Is it clear? Has the great TBW condom war ended? Ace of Spades IP Address - curbow.tch.uc.edu Wed Feb 18 10:23:23 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Just stopped by on my way to the pill-pusher's (again). Thanks to both of you for your interest in my health. It sucks, but it's better. My vocabulary is slightly enlarged: wan, dissipated, emaciated, orthostatic hypotension... But, as my favorite uncle said, "Any day above-ground is a good day." Today I'm even upright. Looks like I missed a young war here. I would have been an early casualty anyway... A hundred years ago in America: "Remember the 'Maine'! To hell with Spain!" Remember that, Phanty? }:-> Tom: Love doesn't h